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Old 06-16-2004, 09:12 PM   #36
phate1000
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Originally Posted by rejuvinet
Farika,

Several times in the first few days of the DDoS attacks, Peter was able to revive DesignLoad on its original URL. When the DDoS attacks became larger, making it harder for people to access the site (they were being pinged at more than 2 Gigabytes per second, causing every visitor's attempt to time-out!!!) they put the entire site onto a secondary machine and issued an alternate URL. They would not have done this if the initial intent was to just close up shop and run.

That alternate URL was posted on another forum, giving the people who caused the first attack another target. Now the alternate suffers the same fate as the first - Peter has TWO machines to try and protect now. It's not an easy task trying to keep one machine protected from major DDoS attacks, but two - I'm surprised he hasn't thrown up his hands in defeat by now.

Peter has been working as hard as he can to restore DesignLoad, despite comments like yours. I can't help but feel bad for the poor guy - he's being attacked from one side with DDoS attempts, and attacked from the other by people like you who seem to think the worst without knowing the full story, and making threats accordingly, like you did.

Peter didn't have to offer an alternate URL, but he did. That should count for something. I don't have to publish updates and deal with posts like this on their behalf (remember, I too am a member who is suffering from their downtime as much as anyone else), but I do. That too should prove something.

If the original intent was to pack up and run, the alternate URL would never have been made public and open to DDoS targeting (it just wouldn't have been made available), and we would not be posting everything that being posted here.

Please think about that before posting another threatening and defamatory remark without knowing the full story.


"Peter didn't have to offer an alternate URL"? UUUUmmmmmmm YES HE DID. Unfortunately, some of us never even heard about that! But yes, my friend, he did need to publish SOME kind of way to access the subscriptions that he sold people, or its felony fraud and theft.

If I buy a subscription to a newspaper, and I pay for the entire year up front, and all of a sudden the printing presses break, they either find another way to print the newspaper immediately (and let all of their paying customers know how to access said newspaper) or they refund all of the subscription costs to all of the indiduals who paid for said subscription. This is not an overly difficult concept to understand, and I cannot imagine why on earth you would think it would be acceptable for this site to just go away, not a word to their PAYING customer base about refunds or subscription access, and that they would NOT be obligated to publish some form of alternative access method.
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